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oceanview || ❝ hold hands with my demons and creatures of night. ❞

OCEANVIEW I

blinded by reflections.
Is there anybody out there?
Someone who can hear me and drink from the light
To see things from the same side
Is there anybody out there?
CODE BY TESSISAMESS
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[personal profile] crazyisinevitable 2023-09-23 07:30 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Alan knows that on some level, but if there really is no going back, then what is he supposed to do with himself? He's not a writer. He doesn't have connections. Alice has more than likely moved on, and he hopes that she did, simply because it's not fair to expect her to wait around for him. But then that begs the question of where he's going to live, what he's going to do, and how he's going to get by in a world he hardly knows how to be in anymore.

Why did Wake call Faden Director? Did he subconsciously recognize that he felt lost and needed direction? Wake frowned, because after all the things he had already made happen to her, it wasn't fair to saddle her with something else she hadn't asked for. No, Wake thought that he needed to find his own direction, and he couldn't ask Faden for help.

A part of him wants to ask Jesse for help, at least in the sense of giving him something to do. He has no career, not anymore. Could he possibly find a job within the Bureau? That feels like jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire, but maybe he could be a janitor cleaning floors at night. That's safe, isn't it? He can't cause a crisis of reality with a mop.

Something in his mind rebels at the thought of trying to put a plan in place for his future. There's so much he needs to figure out: living and work arrangements are just part of it. What happened to his bank accounts? Does he even have any assets anymore? The thought of all the things he needs to work out makes him want to run. Except running isn't a viable option, not here in the real world. ]


I don't- It's probably not safe for her to meet me. [ I won't be the reason she gets put in harm's way again. And there's no "where" for me to go to. ]

Yes. Yeah, I want to know that. If you want to tell me.

[ He has to push down the urge to recoil when she holds out her hand. She isn't going to hurt him, or come at him with an axe or knife or any of the other things he's been threatened with before. But it takes a monumental effort on his part to return the gesture, extending his own hand beneath hers. ]

I- It sounds familiar. She sounds familiar. [ There's so many things running around in circles in his mind that it's difficult to zero in on specific things he's written about, but this feels familiar somehow. ] What is that? That resonance. What does it do?

[ It snapped him out of his psychobabble, but he figures that's not what it's meant for. ]
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[personal profile] crazyisinevitable 2023-09-23 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Maybe instead of racking his brain trying to figure out how to put his life back together again, since it seems to only be making him spiral out more, falling deeper into a proverbial lake with no bottom, he should simply focus on what's happening right now: on this conversation with Jesse, on learning more about Polaris and whatever else she is willing to share with him. ]

You don't have to tell me if you don't want to. Forget that I asked. [ The words slide out before he can stop them, as soon as he realizes that she is hesitating. It was wrong for him to ask her, because why should she trust him with anything, let alone something so personal? If the situation was reversed, would he want to tell her in detail about everything that had happened following his dive into Cauldron Lake?

He needed to tell someone sooner or later, as all of it was eating him alive even now, but was now the right time to do it? Was Jesse the right person to hear it? Maybe he should simply take those secrets to his grave.

But if telling Jesse, the Bureau, someone information about the Dark Place helped stop more bad things from happening, didn't he have the obligation to? While Jesse has her own internal debate with Polaris, Alan's free hand lifts to grip his head for a second or two, as if the action will help clear the cascade of thoughts and questions and worries falling around in his mind. If only there was something he could do to clear the storm in his head.

Wake needed to write. No. No writing. Never again, not when it's his writing that makes things happen. His words cause trouble even when he doesn't intend them to. ]


Polaris. It's a good name. [ He hasn't smiled in who knows how long, but his lips twitch as if they want to smile now. Her guiding star. Polaris is the North Star. Guiding people on their way. It is the star to every wand'ring bark. It all makes sense, at least in Alan's mind. ] I'm glad that you're together, if that's the right way to describe it. It both is and isn't, isn't it? You're together, but the resonance comes from you too. It started with her, but now it's part of you.

[ He is still wary of opening himself up to things he can't explain, and maybe he doesn't fully trust Polaris, but she feels welcoming somehow. The Dark Presence took him over, wanted to swallow him, used him. He can't explain why he thinks Polaris is different, only that he feels different whens he picks up on that swirling, shifting energy. ]

She gave you something useful. [ He might call it a gift, but may be Jesse doesn't see it that way. He wouldn't presume to know what she might be thinking about her bond, her connection with Polaris. In contrast, he isn't sure how useful his own abilities are. ] You have theories, and theories can become proof.

[ He's not entirely sure where he's going with that train of thought, and he stops thinking about it, as Polaris has very thoroughly managed to distract him with her shimmer. ]
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[personal profile] crazyisinevitable 2023-09-24 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
[ He pauses for a moment, and the hand that's still carrying the long forgotten about thermos tightens around it. Breakfast? Eating? That was something he did once. He didn't do that in the Dark Place; if he did, he doesn't remember. He doesn't remember doing things like taking a shower, or drinking water, or anything people do in their day to day lives.

Unconsciously, he reaches into the pocket of his jeans, as if expecting a wallet or a fold of bills to be in there, but there's nothing there. There should be something there. He should have a phone. Car keys. But instead, there's just nothing. ]


Breakfast sounds good. [ Kind of. ] I'd pay, but I- Uh. [ He doesn't have a cent on him. This feels a little awkward. He should pay for her, but where did all his things go?

Hartman was stretched- Stop that. Stop saying that. That's over now. ]


Yeah. Somehow, I knew that you could handle it, if he started making trouble. [ Hartman was always making trouble. He just called it "helping". It wasn't helping. ]

You, uh- you seem to know more about your gift than I do about- about mine. [ He stumbles over those words, because he's not sure what he thinks about his abilities. Are they gifts? Curses? The latter seems more likely. ] I'm not sure I'd call it beneficial.

[ He glances around them at the trees and the sky and the mountains in the background. Everything here seems whole enough. The trees aren't swaying wildly in the wind or snapped completely in half. Barrels and other objects aren't rolling or flying towards him. If he didn't know better, he'd say everything was normal here. ] Do you want to go into town?

[ There's not too many options here, so it seems like town is the place to go. ]
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[personal profile] crazyisinevitable 2023-09-24 05:27 am (UTC)(link)
[ It's like a rat race inside his head: thoughts bubbling up and chasing themselves around, only to fade out into a dull hum and be replaced by others. The conversation he's been having with Jesse has helped ground him somewhat, but he is still in a very scattered state of mind. ]

Next time, it's on me. [ Somehow, he'll manage to find a way to pay her back. ] What do you like, anyway? [ It feels so strange to be making future plans and thinking about things like what kinds of foods people like. But maybe it's a sign that he's coming out of the shell-shocked state brought on by his time in the Dark Place. Maybe. He hopes it is, at least. ]

No, it's fine. It's fine to go into town. [ He can't picture it that clearly, but something tells him that there's not very many options in Bright Falls anyway. And maybe he's wrong, but those FBI agents probably wouldn't be very happy with him if he left the area.

And truthfully, his pace is more along the lines of hiding back in that room in the cabin with all the lights turned on, not walking into town in search of food.

When she points out that not many people would recognize him as being Alan Wake, he gives her a confused sort of look. Oh, that's right. He's been missing. Thirteen years. Maybe at first, his face could be seen on those missing persons posters. But that probably stopped as the years dragged on. Right? Even bestsellers fade from the public eye, or something like that. It hasn't even occurred to him that maybe he doesn't look quite like the same man he was when he dove into Cauldron Lake. ]


Shall we? [ His words lack the attempt at flourish that they might have had thirteen years ago, and the effort probably falls flat. But at least he made an effort at trying to sound normal, even though he knows he may never feel normal again. ]
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[personal profile] crazyisinevitable 2023-09-24 07:18 am (UTC)(link)
Is it going to sound weird if I tell you that I don't know?

[ He feels as though the Dark Place took more from him than just time. It took away what Alan thinks of as the ability to feel alive. His focus for the last thirteen years has been on fighting and surviving, and doing whatever he could to escape.

His gaze drops down to his hands then, just as she mentions coffee. He used to like coffee, didn't he? It feels like something he ought to know. He unscrews the top of the thermos and just stares down at it and the brown liquid inside. It's such a simple action: pour out some of the coffee and drink it. Easy. Nothing to it. But it's the first drink he's been offered since his return, and he finds himself at a loss. ]


Uh... do you want some? [ He's not sure why he's even hesitating. It's coffee, something he used to like. Maybe it'll help wake you up. He knows he's awake, so why does he still feel like he's so disconnected from everything? Even something as simple as drinking coffee seems like something he doesn't know how to do.

Eventually, he takes the chance to put the top back on the thermos as soon as he thinks Jesse isn't looking. He gets in the car with Jesse and Steve, and he lapses into silence on the way to the diner. They pass by trees, lots of them, and again, the images seem to flicker and flash, turning the trees into broken ones and burned ones. He closes his eyes for a moment and shakes his head, hoping to clear away those images.

After a short while, they pull into the parking lot of the diner and exit the car. At first, Alan doesn't even notice what's in a large truck adjacent to the diner. He knows this diner, having passed by it a few times. It looks the same from the outside, even after all this time. Finally, though, his gaze travels over to the truck, and his eyes widen. Again, he blinks, once, and then twice, and he shakes his head a little harder this time.

But he doesn't have time to dwell on what gave him pause, as Steve and Jesse are already heading towards the diner's entrance. Steve sits by himself in the booth in front of them, and Alan slides in across from Jesse.

She slides over a menu and he just sits there staring at it. Just pick something. You have to. It doesn't matter that you haven't eaten anything in thirteen years. Come on, Wake. The pep talk, if that is what it is, doesn't really help convince him, but he knows he should at least try.

Hoping to buy himself more time, he looks over at Jesse. ]
See anything you like?
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[personal profile] crazyisinevitable 2023-09-24 08:59 am (UTC)(link)
No?

[ He's surprised, somehow. Maybe he shouldn't be. Jesse's reactions have been understanding. Patient. She'd been through this before. Maybe not to this same degree, but she acted like she knew how to react. It surprised him that she never looked at him with judgment, even when he was doing and saying crazy things.

Maybe one day, he won't see those harrowing images whenever he looks at things that were mirrored by the Dark Presence, drawing from his own experiences. He doesn't like seeing them, and he doesn't like imagining the looks of worry people around him are giving him. It's not pity or concern that he wants. Hell, he doesn't even know what he wants. It's something he has to figure out.

Jesse offers a suggestion for what he should order, and he offers her a small, somewhat strained smile in return. ]
Don't worry about it. I- [ I don't know how to do this. ] Why don't you and Steve get something? I bet you're both hungry. [ He should be, but he just can't seem to get past this particular hurdle.

He stiffens at the sound of the bell at the door, and at the sound of the door opening. The sounds here are so different from the ones that he'd been forced to grow used to. In the Dark Place, certain sounds heralded certain threats, and he'd gotten to know a lot of them. The transition is jarring, to say the least. A ringing bell isn't a sign of his impending doom, but he has to remind himself what it is a sign of: something innocuous and not harmful.

Maybe that's the way he should look at this. Instead of viewing food and drink as something he can't remember how to approach, he should look at it as something else that will help ground him. It's more or less what Jesse said. He'll have to at some point, and it'll help when he does. Reframe the problem until it stops being a problem. ]


All right, but you should still get what you want. [ Just because he's having difficulties adjusting doesn't mean he expects people to go out of their way for him.

At her next words, however, he straightens up and brushes a few stray hairs out of his eyes. ]


You will? [ Leave it to a writer of stories to be immediately interested in someone else's story more than anything else. ]
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[personal profile] crazyisinevitable 2023-09-24 05:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah.. Yeah, it was. Thirteen years too long. [ He tries to laugh, as if to attempt normalizing what he's been through. It doesn't quite work, and his laugh sounds hollow to his ears. ] But, uh- [ He hates how his thoughts just seem to form and then fade before he can complete them. It seems that his grasp of words and language isn't at its best. ]

Never mind. [ Whatever it was that he was going to say disappeared, and he just shakes his head in annoyance and disappointment with himself. ]

By the way... [ He can't remember if he's said this before now or not, so he figures there's no harm in saying it again. ] Thanks.

[ For not turning around and leaving me here when you saw. For also not throwing me into the nuthouse. At least, not yet. I guess that's still a possibility. She still could do that, or turn me into the Bureau. Poking and prodding, that sounds like a great time. Oh, great, why did I have to think about that?

Alan's fingers curl around the menu he's still holding onto, even though he's no longer looking at it. He's looking at Jesse, but his mind is trying to wander away again despite his best efforts to stop it.

Got any tips for how to deal with a crazed mind? He'd ask that, but he's not sure she'd have anything to offer, and he's not so sure he wants to reveal just how messed up he actually is, even though she's probably guessed. Anyone with half a brain could see the signs, unfortunately. ]


About that. You- you really don't have to say anything if you don't want to. I know I asked, but... [ A part of him wants to demand to hear her story, to demand information, but does he have the right to demand anything? There's still a part of him that's the volatile-tempered man from thirteen years ago. His long isolation tempered some of that, but there's still a bit of it still inside him.

He can't explain it, but part of him wants to throw a punch at someone- something. Not Jesse, who's only been trying to help, and not Steve, but... maybe a few banged up fingers will snap him out of this messed up state. Maybe he just wants to feel something other than shellshocked confusion. Maybe whenever Jesse goes off to do Director things or whatever it is she does that isn't talking to crazies like him, he can find a nice wall to siphon off some of his feelings. ]
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[personal profile] crazyisinevitable 2023-09-24 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I do. [ He's surprised that she's surprised. ] I know what you said about coming down here because you wanted to be here, but you didn't have to stay. Or- Or give me coffee or pay for food. [ The coffee he didn't drink because he's still too strung out to even think about it. ] It's...

[ It's more than I deserve.

If he knew what Jesse was wondering, he'd tell her it was like that. And he's like this now because part of his mind still thinks he's at the typewriter, writing page after page of manuscripts. Narrating. Describing. Writing. Rewriting. Again and again and again until something works. It's a strange conundrum, and he knows it, but he had to write something cohesive and whole that made sense, but he also had to jump around a lot and try different ideas until the pieces fit together.

Maybe that's why his thoughts jump around and form in his mind as half-thoughts that may or may not make sense. He's still pecking away at the typewriter in his head.

As for his dive into the Dark Place- maybe that's a good way of putting it. He knew he had to go there in order to free Alice. But was he truly prepared for the scope and depth and horror of it all? It seems fairly clear that he wasn't.

He opens his mouth to say something, but then the waitress comes over to take their orders.

As soon as the waitress says "Deerfest", the color drains from Alan's face and tension seizes his entire frame. His gaze travels out the window to where he can see the deer float in the truck. ]


Alan... Wake...

[ A booming voice echoes around him, and suddenly, Alan is having what is best described as a completely insane, completely mental experience. Suddenly, the deer has sprouted another head, and both heads turn slowly to look at him.

Oh no... Then, there's an almighty boom and the deer has exploded, the legs and torso flying off in all different directions. But the heads, both of them, fly towards Alan, shattering the windows of the diner in an effort to get to him, to smash and destroy and kill.

He cringes in his seat, and he would hunch over to cover his head, but he feels Jesse's hands suddenly covering his, and the terrifying vision fades away just like that. The deer only has one head, and it's not flying at him, and the windows of the diner are in one piece.

God, I really am losing my mind.

He's about to say something, but then something seems to happen, and he feels Jesse tense almost like he did when he had the flashback to the deer float going to literal pieces. Warning bells go off in his mind and he feels an overwhelming urge to bolt. Something's happening. Don't ask him how he knows; it's just a feeling in the pit of his stomach.

Am I doing it again without realizing it? Writing without actually writing? Tell me that's not what's happening. It doesn't make sense, as he's not in the Dark Place anymore, but- Wait.

Cauldron Lake isn't that far away, is it? Could it be that the lake is still making things happen? Is it still bringing Alan's words to life somehow? nononononono- The word "no" starts echoing in Alan's mind, echoing and repeating and he feels himself shudder. Pull yourself together, Wake!

And just like that, timed with Jesse jerking herself upright, he somehow manages to drag himself out of the swirling storm of his own head. ]


Wh- [ He doesn't have time to say anything before Jesse's pulling her hands away and getting up from the booth. And in another instant, she's gone, walking away from them towards the hall leading to the bathrooms. ]

Uh- Make that two of us. I'll- I'll be right back.

[ He think he recognizes the look Jesse was wearing right before she got up and left the booth. He hopes that he's wrong, but he has to know for sure, and so he also stands up and follows after Jesse. ]
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[personal profile] crazyisinevitable 2023-09-25 04:41 am (UTC)(link)
[ This is ridiculous. I need a new brain. Brain transplant. And no, that's not a serious suggestion. The Dark Presence could still somehow be listening, warping Alan's words, even if he's not writing them down. If Alan's learned anything at all, it's that words can be distorted and used and that it's dangerous to put ideas out into the universe. The universe contains things that have teeth, and those teeth can bite and grab. He reaches up to knock his fist against the side of his head. He shouldn't even think those kinds of thoughts. He knows better.

But even though he tells himself it's nonsense, when he walks down the hall and stops in front of the women's bathroom, something prickles in the back of his mind. He tries the doorknob, but it's locked. He rattles it once, and then again, harder this time. It still doesn't budge.

There's no escape. I can't get out... I can't get out! Even those words don't sound right. Did he say them? Maybe he said them once, and then he scratched them out.

But either way, a locked door is never good. There's a thud sound as Alan's fist connects with the wooden door. He'd thought earlier that he might vent his frustrations with a wall, but this isn't how he imagined that going. Let me in. Out? In.

He raises his fist again, intending to strike the door harder. Maybe Jesse's in trouble in there and she can't answer. Or she simply can't hear him, in which case, he needs to get louder. But before fist can hit wood, he spots something from out of the corner of his eye.

Paper? A manuscript page!

Alan drops to one knee to pick up the page, and in the absence of anything sounding like screams or a fight from inside the room, he momentarily abandons his efforts to knock (pound) upon the door.

All Alan has to do is read the first two lines and he knows. ]


Oh... [ How many times had he done this? 5? 50? 500? Okay, maybe 500 was too much for this specific manuscript. Overall? Sure. 50 was a good number.

50 times of writing this, and rewriting it, and trying to get it right. Sometimes no one died. Sometimes Jesse- Faden, the Director, died. Other times, things just didn't work out how he thought they would. Lose the fat. Make it clear. Be clever.

Only, how clever was he really, when people died because of what he wrote? There's a crinkling sound as his grip on the paper tightens. He knows this page. In this attempt, number whatever out of 50, Faden died. Killed, to be precise. Scratch did it, and he laughed as he did. Laughed at Wake for not being able to write the ending.

The scene written on the page flashes into Alan's mind, and the paper crinkles even further as he forms a fist with his hand. Wake used the materials he had. The connections he had. The people. The places. Wake put them in to make it true. He sees a bathroom, and a redhead, and Scratch. Scratch is laughing. The floor is cracked.

The redhead is lying facedown. Not moving. Not anything.

She's dead. It's my fault he got out.

Alan grinds his teeth together. His thoughts still slip away from him too easily, too quickly, and he knows that in so many ways, he is still drowning in the pull of the Dark Place. But Scratch- Scratch must be stopped. He must stop him.

He's not a hero. He's not even much of a fighter. He failed and let Scratch escape. ]


I can fix this. [ It's one of the few sentences he's said with any kind of clarity since Anderson tried to question him for the first time. ] I'll fix this.

[ I'll catch up with you eventually! The words echo in his head, but this time, they're not just an echo of something from the past. He will catch him and put an end to this.

For now, though, he needs to find out if Jesse's all right. He doesn't pound on the door with as much force this time, but it's still loud enough to hopefully catch her attention. And unfortunately, to also catch the attention of the waitress. ]


Excuse me, sir, can I help you?

[ Well, crap. ]
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[personal profile] crazyisinevitable 2023-09-25 08:01 am (UTC)(link)
[ Alan is still standing there with his hand raised, but he's turned to look sidelong at the waitress. Come on... What was it that Barry called him? Good old Barry and his Christmas lights. Come on, Al. You can do this. He used to be able to schmooze and bluff his way through things. He could do it again with this waitress. But as it turns out, Steve is good at schmoozing too, and he gets to it before Alan can so much as open his mouth. Just as well, really, given he still doesn't quite know how grounded in reality he is at the moment.

Something has shifted inside him, however, and he feels as though maybe some of the swirling darkness leftover from the Dark Place has faded. Maybe it's finally letting him go. Knowing that Steve has the waitress situation in hand (man, he really wishes he had money on him right now, cause he'd love to buy the guy the biggest stack of pancakes on the menu), he turns his focus back to Jesse.

The manuscript jogged his memory, in a way, and now he remembers that he'd written about her before, and more than once. Maybe the manuscripts were never completed, destined only to be written and revised until he was satisfied. But each time, there was a connection. Maybe he doesn't want to feel it. Alice is still out there, after all. He hasn't always been the most stand-up guy, and yet he knows that it would feel wrong to him to develop a connection with someone else when he's still married to his wife. But even so, he can't pretend there isn't a connection.

Still, even with the jolt to his memory from the manuscript, something still doesn't feel right. But it's hard to fix something when you don't even know what needs to be fixed. He could spend hours racking his brains trying to bring to mind whatever it is, or he could just wait and let it happen on its own. If it ever does.

His gaze is still on her even as he navigates his thoughts and tries to find some sense in them. Somehow, he can tell he's a little bit more lucid than he was previously, and so he intends to run with that. His eyes snap to hers when she places her hand upon his chest, and they widen when she pushes him against the wall. He opens his mouth to protest, but then he feels the resonance from her and Polaris, but- there's something else there too. ]


What are- What are you doing? [ There's a strange echo present, almost like a callback from another time, but he hasn't a clue what that means. Is it related to whatever happened in the bathroom? Why did she lock herself in there? ] Jesse.

[ Director. Faden. Proper titles that he should probably use, but he isn't because somehow, the name just slipped out like he'd used it before. But when? Where?

Alan. Wake up. His expression shifts into one of confusion, because he thought he was awake. Confused and uncertain as hell, but awake. ]


I'm trying to. [ Trying to navigate the darkness that still lingers that causes him to see things that aren't there, things that happened years ago now. ] I want to wake up.
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[personal profile] crazyisinevitable 2023-09-25 04:43 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Wake up, Alan. Alan, wake up. It's happening again. You have to stop it. He feels himself start to spiral out again as doubt and not knowing what the hell he's supposed to do claws at his mind. ]

It's happening again. Bright Falls, it's happening again. [ He hears a familiar echo of ringing inside his head: the ringing of a telephone. Calling the Director. Calling for a hero. Was he rebroadcasting?

...I need help.

It isn't the first time he's expressed the idea of needing someone to help him, but he doesn't remember if he's ever expressed it so directly, even in his own mind. She presses on his chest again and although it doesn't feel like a hard push the way a strong punch would, he gasps.

Alan, please... ]


I can't... [ What good is waking up going to do, when he can't do anything? ] What good is it if I write the things I see? It doesn't change anything. It never changes anything! [ He can't write themselves out of this, not when he barely knows what this entails.

Wake up! If he thought it would help, he'd punch himself in the side of the head in an effort to snap himself out of whatever this is. Jesse's voice sounds desperate, afraid, and he wants to help make her not afraid. It's his fault she's afraid; he wrote about her and put her in the crosshairs and hurt her somehow. Maybe not directly with his own hands, but he wrote it, so it might as well be. It's still a result of what he's written. He wants to help her, but how can he, when he's afraid too?

Alan. Wake. Up. He suddenly goes rigid, head snapping up from where it was threatening to fall and hang low. Eyes wide and more than a little wild, he stares at Jesse as though he's never seen her before. ]
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